Comedy's Relationship From Carson to TikTok, The Rise & Fall

By matt nappo | Nov 15, 2025
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This video discusses the changing landscape of comedy, comparing it to a relationship and exploring the impact of social media on comedians' careers.

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Speaker discusses the shift in the comedy industry from the era of Johnny Carson to the rise of new platforms, using a relationship analogy to describe the ups and downs of the profession. Speaker: It's like a woman sometimes, you know? Speaker: Right. Speaker: It's like, yeah, a woman that you love, sometimes she doesn't love you back. Speaker: You gotta do the work to get her to love you back or, or maybe you, you let go for a while, you do something else. Speaker: But I feel like I started comedy after the boom and that was basically, it was like, you know, there was this time when comics were like, they had Johnny Carson, you know. Speaker: If you had one good set there, you got a sitcom or you got, like, national touring. Speaker: And so, when I started it was, that was kind of, kind of phasing out. Speaker: It was, uh, you know, there was some guy called Chicken Man that went to Montreal- and got, and got some, you know, sitcom and then, like, something didn't work out or something and then he killed himself. Speaker: It was, like, this tragic story I remember hearing as a comic. Speaker: And then it was like, yeah, it was different. Speaker: Things There was no Johnny Carson. Speaker: Um, you know, Letterman kind of mattered, but it wasn't as big a deal as it used to be.

It's like a woman sometimes, you know? Right. It's like, yeah, a woman that you love, sometimes she doesn't love you back. You gotta do the work to get her to love you back or, or maybe you, you let go for a while, you do something else. But I feel like I started comedy after the boom and that was basically, it was like, you know, there was this time when comics were like, they had Johnny Carson, you know. If you had one good set there, you got a sitcom or you got, like, national touring. And so, when I started it was, that was kind of, kind of phasing out. It was, uh, you know, there was some guy called Chicken Man that went to Montreal- and got, and got some, you know, sitcom and then, like, something didn't work out or something and then he killed himself. It was, like, this tragic story I remember hearing as a comic. And then it was like, yeah, it was different. Things There was no Johnny Carson. Um, you know, Letterman kind of mattered, but it wasn't as big a deal as it used to be.

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Speaker discusses the impact of social media on comedy, contrasting online popularity with the experience of performing in various venues and the challenges this presents. Speaker: And so now we're at a point where, like you were saying about social media, now that's, you know, that will get you a Netflix special and things like that. Speaker: But what I've noticed though, I've seen guys who have that online popularity and they don't have the chops of working at VFW and an Elks Lodge and just, you know- Yeah. Speaker: crap gig after crap gig and it shows in their special, you know? Speaker: And it's like And then the audience is like, they love them for being a podcaster, but then their stand-up comedy isn't as great as that thing. Speaker: And so sometimes they lose interest in, you know, their comedy per se. Speaker: So And it goes bad, you know?

And so now we're at a point where, like you were saying about social media, now that's, you know, that will get you a Netflix special and things like that. But what I've noticed though, I've seen guys who have that online popularity and they don't have the chops of working at VFW and an Elks Lodge and just, you know- Yeah. crap gig after crap gig and it shows in their special, you know? And it's like And then the audience is like, they love them for being a podcaster, but then their stand-up comedy isn't as great as that thing. And so sometimes they lose interest in, you know, their comedy per se. So And it goes bad, you know?


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