Join 'Coffee with Jen Lieberman' for a discussion on the #metoo movement and its impact on social interactions. This segment explores how individuals should be treated as people, advocating for #equality and #human rights regardless of #gender. The conversation touches on aspects of #feminism and the importance of #gender equality in modern society.
Exploring how to be chivalrous and respectful in modern dating, moving beyond toxic masculinity and possessiveness. Discover how genuine kindness and treating people as individuals is the true key to healthy relationships.
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Jennifer mentioned about feeling sorry for, I guess, men because they don't know how to approach women because of the Me Too movement. And I don't feel sorry for them at all because I was, again, and this I attribute to my mother, even though she had a flawed reason for raising me this way, it kind of worked for me and that is you treat each individual you treat people as people you don't treat women as a weaker sex I mean I can still be chivalrous without treating you or or no I thought I could hold the door for a man and hold the door for a woman.
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And the only difference would be that when a woman walked by, I might check out her ass and I'm not checking out the guy's ass. That's like the only difference. Other than that, I will treat you the same. But yeah, that's just being kind. That's just common courtesy. I don't think it's I think you can be chivalrous and be respectful at the same time. I think that's where the toxic masculinity is when you're starting to treat women like property or treating people like property.
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As opposed to like, okay, like, I mean, I may look, I don't like referring to my wife as my wife. When I introduce her, I don't say this is my wife. When I introduce her, I say this is Carol. You know, if they can't figure out we're married by now, then, you know, they're a little slow on the uptake. But that's it. She's not mine. You know, we're married. But, you know. But that's just, again, that's just my thing. I don't like the idea of the possessiveness.
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And I think that's what happens with a lot of guys. It's like, this is my girlfriend. And not only that, that quite often the guy, if a guy marries a cheerleader, he expects her to be a cheerleader for his entire life. If she starts being a cheerleader and starts being a doctor, quite often they're like, I don't know. I've married a cheerleader. I didn't want a doctor. I didn't want a smart woman.
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On the screen right now, I'm showing some of Jen's works, literary works. Now, because we're talking about sex here, and we'll get, well, not get off it, but there's part of an element to everything you do, it seems. But almost all these works that we're looking at, They seem to have, and I'm just guessing about that leash one, but some sexual element to it, some part of exploring human sexuality.
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We have details, which it's hard to make out exactly what the, from the cover, what the details, content of that is the penis fairy i i joked this morning it's like when your penis falls off you leave it under a pillow and then you wake up and there's a quarter uh leash looks like an sm type of thing yeah and all right and jamie um no clue but it that was more like a psychedelic trip in the desert And Dumpster Divas.
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Dumpster Divas looks like it would be an A-list movie made by Hollywood. Definitely like the New Age Thelma and Todd or something, right? Is that what that is? So that was like an eighties dance spoof about 2 girls.
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